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Post by tusting on Apr 17, 2006 21:51:41 GMT -5
yes, in a way i think that they are contrasting characters. i think that mrs dubose is similar to boo radley in a sense that the children judge and lable them before they get to know them. at the beggining of the story, the children are telling stories of all the horrors of boo radley - how he stabbed his father in the calf, goes at night and looks throught peoples windows, how he eats live cats and squirrels around the town. but as the story progresses and the children get more involved with boo, they learn that he is really a nice, gentle person - even if they never see him. i could support this with when the kids found the items in the tree hole, how boo sewed jems pants and neatly placed them by the hole in the fence, and how during the fire, he came and put a blanket on scout because she was cold. similarily, mrs dubose is described as a extremely mean old lady. the children soon learn that mrs dubose has problems of her own, and really nothing to live for, but she keeps on living none the less. the children, especially jem, learn to respect mrs dubose. i think that there is a moral being taught here, and that is you cannot judge a person before you really get to know them.
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Post by elliottgrossman on Apr 18, 2006 2:45:00 GMT -5
I believe that we are meant to learn that there is a differnet opinion that is much different from everyone elses. One that stresses good behavior and much respect towards elders. I am not sure how it will effect the story yet but i do know it will when she begins to be read to by the children.
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Post by kohl on Apr 19, 2006 0:24:33 GMT -5
Mrs. Dubose helped teach us that there are alot of different people in the world, and you can't judge them just based on rumors you heard. Boo is really a good guy, but everyone thinks he's a mean scary person. Mrs. Dubose is really kinda mean but everyone says she's nice. She helps balance things out in the story.
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Post by tusting on Apr 19, 2006 10:08:59 GMT -5
i also agree that she is there to help both children controll their anger. jem destroyed her shrubbery because he was angry, without thinking of the consequences. i think he learned his lesson though. and scout is still learning to controll her anger and stop fighting with all the kids when they make rude remarks about her father.
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Post by engebrethson on Apr 21, 2006 14:12:22 GMT -5
We met Ms. Dubose because without her the children wouldn’t know how to treat people like her. When Jem got in trouble he had to read to her for a whole month and even though he strongly didn’t want to read to her his father made him go and scout just followed along. At the end of each day an alarm clock would go off at different times each day. The children learned patients because they had to read to Ms. Dubose and half the time she didn’t listen. She was very sick and a little after the children stopped reading to her she died. She showed the kids another view on there dad and over time the children learned to respect her a little. I think that Ms. Dubose and Boo are similar because she is a mean old lady and Boo is also just mean.
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Post by isabeauc on Apr 21, 2006 14:23:15 GMT -5
I think that what we are supposed to learn from this episode from Ms. Dubose is how Jem needs to control his anger and not resort to immature tactics to defend Atticus. That's all he was trying to do, but by resorting to destroying her flowers, all he did was stoop to her level of immaturity. I agree with Libby and what she said about how the kids need to learn how to respect others, even the despicable. I also agree with what she said about Boo and Ms. Dubose being similar. They both strike fear into the heart of the children. However, we know that Ms. Dubose was not such a good person and Boo is the opposite.
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Post by surok on Apr 22, 2006 14:43:42 GMT -5
she is the author weighing down the story a bit more. it made me think "why another character the children hate?" but when she died i realized that she was there to teach them a lesson about death and obligation.
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Post by surok on Apr 22, 2006 14:47:38 GMT -5
We met Ms. Dubose because without her the children wouldn’t know how to treat people like her. When Jem got in trouble he had to read to her for a whole month and even though he strongly didn’t want to read to her his father made him go and scout just followed along. At the end of each day an alarm clock would go off at different times each day. The children learned patients because they had to read to Ms. Dubose and half the time she didn’t listen. She was very sick and a little after the children stopped reading to her she died. She showed the kids another view on there dad and over time the children learned to respect her a little. I think that Ms. Dubose and Boo are similar because she is a mean old lady and Boo is also just mean. i agree, she was also teaching the children patience and understanding of different people. but only Jem learned about respect, really. scout would just talk about her when they got home.
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Post by michelleg16 on Apr 22, 2006 20:50:03 GMT -5
Why do we meet Ms. Dubose? What are we supposed to learn from this episode? What do the Finch children learn from Ms Dubose. The children’s world is bordered by Boo and Dubose. Are they contrasting characters?
We meet Ms. Dubose to teach us and the kids that people aren't that bad if you give them a chance, or know where they are coming from. Ms. Dubose, when she was alive, was hard on the children and sometimes even mean to them. Jem and Scout learned to keep their tempers from her. I don't think they are contrasting characters. One is mean, the other is mysterious, and is somewhat of a myth.
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Post by bryceg on Apr 25, 2006 19:30:07 GMT -5
I think we meet ms dubose because it is another important lesson to learn that you cant judge a book by its cover. the kids my not realize it yet, but later on they will. boo radley is the person they know nothing about but they still judge him. ms dubose is the person that they do know but in the end, they figure out she wasnt as bad as she seemed.
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Post by freeman on Apr 25, 2006 23:45:56 GMT -5
she is like the opposite of boo. she was acceptable in society, but really wasn't especially towards the finches. while boo wasn't accepted into society, but turned out to be kind towards scout and jem. she was there helping us also kind of see the way that the adults acted too.
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Post by isabeauc on Apr 26, 2006 1:19:14 GMT -5
Nick's right. I didn't even think about the whole wanting to be free similarity between Ms Dubose and Boo. But he's right, Boo wants to be free of a physical prison of sorts and Ms Dubose wants to be free of her addiction before she dies, which can be considered a prison as well.
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Post by traviszucca on Apr 26, 2006 18:29:20 GMT -5
I agree with mariea because we have a lot of the same views on Ms. Dubose. At first she acted mean to the kids but she turned out to be a nice old lady.
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Post by natemaroon on Apr 26, 2006 20:44:22 GMT -5
yeah mrs dubose def. represents the evil part of the yin yang. she tests the children with there temper..there had to be a reason for her bieng rude and obnoxious to the children maybe something happened in the past that we dont know about that made her so strict
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Post by natemaroon on Apr 26, 2006 20:45:30 GMT -5
one more i didnt mean shes evil its just she stands as the meaner one in the story
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