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Post by tcollins on Nov 6, 2008 9:18:57 GMT -5
Ashleyh, Why do you think it was just an innocent crush? Do you think it could develop into more?
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Post by reyes92 on Nov 7, 2008 12:11:40 GMT -5
i think Holden is nervous about Stradlater dating Jane Gallagher because he doesn't want her to be used. Obviously he has good friendly or romantic feelings towards her which means he wouldn't want her to get hurt. I dont think i would say that Holden is in love with Jane but he definitely has feelings for her and thats why he kept debating whether he would go say hi to her. I think he was nervous. when Salinger writes that Jane keeps all her kings in the back row i think it means that she saves whats important and dear to and she doesn't risk what she doesn't have alot of or whats hard to come by or things she has had to work for
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Post by benbo on Nov 7, 2008 12:23:55 GMT -5
Holden is nervous about Jane dating Stradlater because he knows Stradlater is a very flirtatious person and there is a chance something intimate could happen between them. Holden thinks he may be in love with Jane, but is unsure, mainly because they were previously friends. He feels that he could be together, but maybe being friends would be better. The checkers in the back row, in my opinion, shows two things. 1. Holden knows her little quirks better than anyone else. 2. She strategically keeps her feelings (her kings) in the back until she can find someone to give them to (to use when she needs to). I think the checkers will come up again in the story, specifically if he finds Jane again.
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Post by bigkitty7 on Nov 7, 2008 12:25:11 GMT -5
Holden kinda likes her because he had a couple things in common w/ her and he might want her later so he doesn' want him messing with her. the checkers are probably only noticed by holden since he notices stuff like that and is one thing he noticed about jane
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Post by heather on Nov 7, 2008 12:26:56 GMT -5
I thnk he does have a secret little crush on jane. and that hes scared Stradlater will hurt her some how. And the cheacker thing i think means that her payed attention to her so much that he even noticed the little things she did
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Post by torilovesmaddie on Nov 8, 2008 15:04:33 GMT -5
I don't think that Holden is in love with Jane Gallagher. I think by Stradlater going out with her makes Holden jealous because you always want what you can't have. Because of these jealous feelings, Holden realizes that he probably likes her, but in no way loves her. As far as Jane keeping her kings in the back row in checkers, i think someone or something has made it hard for her in the past to open up to people. She's very cautious with every move she makes.
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Post by agent35 on Nov 9, 2008 10:57:42 GMT -5
i think that he is nervous because he really is in love with with jane and also because he scared that jane might actualy want to be with stradlater
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Post by christa on Nov 9, 2008 16:54:28 GMT -5
I think Holden was nervous because he knows what stradlater's intentions but he dosen't know about what Jane will do. And Jane is his friend from a while ago. I feel he likes her but i don't know if he even realizes it. And the kings in the back row i feel might shows that she is maybe hiding something, being timid as a person cause she dosen't feel like letting out all her true emotions or potential. It could be a number of other things too but it's just so many posibilities.
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Post by tropygrl on Nov 13, 2008 12:54:20 GMT -5
i think he does. he always had jane gallagher in his head.it was probably because she was the only girl that he really liked not because of her looks and but her personality.they were very good friends as kids and they shared good memories together. they were there for each other when they needed someone for comforting.i think she was the closest friend he had and he liked her more than a friend. he also seemed jealous and nervouse to find out that jane might of did something with strataler in the back of a car. that also proves that he likes her.
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Post by Steve Gibbs on Nov 14, 2008 12:58:35 GMT -5
Tallies have been counted. This discussion is now closed.
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