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Post by Steve Gibbs on Apr 11, 2006 14:21:22 GMT -5
We often hear the phrase "Like father, like son." In what ways do you see the truth of this phrase manifesting itself in this story? Be specific, name names. Which do you believe to be the strongest influence for most people in this story and in real life, individual experience or behaving "like father, like son"? Why?
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Post by davidk on Apr 11, 2006 14:26:48 GMT -5
it seams to me that most of the children share the same talents and beliefs as their parents, tying the phrase into the story. for example walter cunningham is a good hard worker just like his parents and grandparents
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Post by isabeauc on Apr 11, 2006 14:27:31 GMT -5
I think with characters like Walter Cunningham and Burris Ewell, you can see that they are like their fathers, though they are completely different characters, showing opposite sides of the spectrum that is poverty. Walter won't take anything that he can't pay back, just like his father. And Burris won't work and is rude like his father. I also, kind of, think that Jem wants to be like Atticus. He wants to be a lawyer, which could be an example of his desire to be like Atticus.
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Post by katiebratcher on Apr 11, 2006 14:28:17 GMT -5
Like father like son can fit in with our story becuase of the Ewell family. Atticus mentioned that they have been causing dissfunction in the town for decades. Well Scout witnessed that with Burris in her class and I think thats a way for it to fit in if he acted like that then his dad probably does too. Like how Mr. Ewell shoots game and animals in the off season if though in Maycomb thats against the law! The whole Ewell family acts the same way in my perspective from what i've read so far.
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Post by ahmedb on Apr 11, 2006 14:28:56 GMT -5
During the time in which the mad dog attacks, Atticus was called upon to use his old time skill. He shot the dog and showed that he was not completley useless. Jem and Scout before thought that since he was old, he had nothing interesting about him, but when Jem realized that his father was the deadliest aim in Maycomb and the Landing, he was awestruck. He then told Scout at the end of the chapter while throwing a rock he said that he was just like his father: a gentleman.
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Post by kohl on Apr 11, 2006 14:30:58 GMT -5
This quote very well fits this story since it is shown so much. For instance, Jem wants to be a lawyer just like Atticus when he is older. Also like Isabeau said, Walter Cunningham is like his father because he doesn't take anything he can't give back.
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Post by traviszucca on Apr 11, 2006 14:32:12 GMT -5
I see that the phrase like father like son is very true because you're normally raised by your parents and you get traits from your parents so that is why like father like son is mostly true. In the story I see Jem and Atticus having very close similarities. I think that because both are very responsible and that both of them are very intelligent.
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Post by elliottgrossman on Apr 11, 2006 14:32:52 GMT -5
In the story i believe " like father, like son" pertains to the children. At the time it looks as if the children look out for each other. Even though Atticus is the father it seems that the children do more looking out for each other then the father does for them. Jem constantly looks out for Scout and Scout looks out for Jem. This i believe pertains to most siblings. Sometimes they will act childish but other times they act like fathers or mothers towards there brothers or sisters.
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Post by rundel on Apr 11, 2006 14:33:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with Isabeau. The male characters that were mentioned were similar to their fathers. In real life, I think parents are the biggest influence on children. Young kids like to mimic people that they look up to. So I suppose that goes for the story too.
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Post by isabeauc on Apr 11, 2006 14:37:16 GMT -5
I can't say that I can recall from my personal experience how like father like son could relate to my life. But, I could relate "like father like daughter" to my life. I'm so much like my dad. I have both his positive and negative attributes. I would hope that our family is more like the Cunninghams than the Ewells And, I agree with Katie. When Atticus describes the Ewells to Scout, it is easy to see how Burris is like his father.
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Post by barron1 on Apr 11, 2006 14:37:46 GMT -5
Even though this may sound wierd, I see the father, atticus and his daughter, Scout acting more and more like eachother every day. At Christmas time, Scout were using duragatory words and statements. Then his uncle said that see was just like her father in which she "keeps out growing her pants by just a little bit". Also, whats kind of wierd is that Jem is not really acting much like anybody in his family because he is not really around Atticus much. I believe that your parents are your biggest influences in the story and in real life as well. In the end the term, "like father like son" dosen't reflect directly to the father and/or the son, it counld be either, both or none at all.
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Post by bryceg on Apr 11, 2006 14:39:12 GMT -5
I think there are a couple of people who fit this discription. First is the Radley family. Nathan and Arthur seem very much alike because of the way they act within their community. They are both isolated from most activities and they both seem to avoid communication with others as much as possible. Perhaps throughout the story, Boo will change and he might end up completely different from his father. I also think that the this phrase applies to everyone in the Ewell family. So far in the book, they all have the same traits. Such as not washing and bad attitudes. I think older people in general have the most influence in anyone younger than that person. The person would look up to them because of how they do things or how they dont do things.
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Post by mcech on Apr 11, 2006 14:40:15 GMT -5
You turn out like the people you are raised around. Jem is turning out a lot like Atticus. He is a bit quite and kept to himself. They are both opinionated and fight for what they believe. Walter Cunningham is a lot like his dad and has adopted his belief of not accepting anything free. I believe behaving "like father, like son" is more of an influence because a father is someone that you look up to, respect, and often want to be like.
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Post by lee on Apr 11, 2006 14:40:53 GMT -5
Jem seemed to be more relaxed in this story and seems to be similar to Atticus. Many guys have their fathers as their role models so that if they falter anywhere in their personality they just look up at their father and try to become similar. The only exception is if they don't like their father and want to become different. if their father does drugs and is about to die, then they may feel that they don't want to become like that and therefore look at someone else that fits their needs and what they want to have as a role model. "Like father, like son" is really based on what the father is and what they want to become.
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Post by barron1 on Apr 11, 2006 14:43:20 GMT -5
along with what everybody is saying about the Ewell family and the cungginham family, they to have this charteristic about eachother. Each is poor, but one exbits good manneres from tyhe parents and the other, is just like his father, being ignorant, selfish and rudly manered. All of what you have to say is good as well as what I have to say.
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