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Post by mental on Nov 18, 2008 12:59:28 GMT -5
I think Holden's problems are beyond most people are age. He struggles in school. family. and social skills. He also has a smoking and drinking problem and walks the streets of New York alone late at night. He is obviously a really F*@& up kid.
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Post by reyes92 on Nov 18, 2008 19:34:11 GMT -5
i agree with puzapalooza on the fact that times are different and that Holden is unhappy but i don't think his unhappiness is something that can be solved by simply just talking to his parents about it. I think Holden brings his unhappiness upon himself. Most of the things that Holden gets depressed about are things that he himself has done or things he sees. The things that he sees that depressess him are not things that would normally depress someone. I think he exaggerates sometimes or over reacts
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Post by mental on Nov 18, 2008 21:02:09 GMT -5
i can relate to holden in a few ways. for one i feel i'm pretty crazy, and you'd agree if u knew half the things going on in my head. so i don't think hes weird or anything, just dealing with life in his own way, which other people see as abnormal. I really disagree with that because not only is he crazy, but he has a lot of mental and emotional problems going on and if it was up to me. I would send him to the insane asylum were he belongs.
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Post by lagrimas on Nov 19, 2008 0:22:51 GMT -5
mmm tim, i would tell him to reach out to friends more. look for people who don't have much drama and make up their own problems [since he'd call those people phony] and that hav more high spirited personalities. dont take everything sooo seriously. not everything you come across is meant for you to internalize. thats why we let things go.
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Post by christa on Nov 20, 2008 12:11:29 GMT -5
I think Holden's problems are beyond most people are age. He struggles in school. family. and social skills. He also has a smoking and drinking problem and walks the streets of New York alone late at night. He is obviously a really F*@& up kid. But maybe he is just going througjh a phase and he seems really nice. dosen't he?
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Post by reyes92 on Nov 20, 2008 12:29:21 GMT -5
Benbo, Holden isn't the only teenager coming from a rich and well off family. I think his problems have to with his family to an extent but I don't think its the full reason. I think some are personal problems and you have to take into account that he has lost a sibling which can really takes it toll on a person especially a child. Maybe acting the way he does is just a wasy to deal with his grief.
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Post by abude11 on Nov 20, 2008 12:32:34 GMT -5
Holden's problem is kind of common to others out there. It's the main point stating that he doesn't know what he wants and there's many at his age who still don't know what they want. The only difference is is he reacts to it in a different way. Everyone acts to there own problems differently.
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Post by ariamac on Nov 20, 2008 12:46:03 GMT -5
HOldEn HAs Lots of problems But It doesn't affect anyone but himself.
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Post by bigkitty7 on Nov 20, 2008 12:47:18 GMT -5
holden has alot of problems, more than most but the few that have his problems do what he does.
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Post by bigkitty7 on Nov 20, 2008 12:50:03 GMT -5
his problems are common in kids his age.
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Post by agent35 on Nov 20, 2008 12:50:14 GMT -5
i agree with reyes 92 and i believe that ashley h is completely wrong
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Post by miles on Nov 20, 2008 13:00:46 GMT -5
I believe in most people here and that their saying that Holden doesnt have it that bad.
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Post by jamesc on Nov 20, 2008 23:56:31 GMT -5
to:miles why do you think he doesnt have problems
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Post by jamesc on Nov 20, 2008 23:57:34 GMT -5
to:plair i think your opion is completely wrong
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Post by putanginamo on Nov 21, 2008 12:13:19 GMT -5
to me, i think that Holden feels alienated most of the time. He always thinks about how depressed he is and gets even more depressed when he thinks about his little brother, Allie. i think that the death of Allie is one of the main causes why Holden is always down and depressed.
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